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Offline Raymond Benjamins

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Why?
« on: May 09, 2015, 09:57:44 pm »
Why had all the topics that I had placed in my own column been deleted?  And about 100 of my postings have been completely wiped away from this forum.  Why could someone not have offered me any kind of a warning?  I put a lot of hard work into it.  And Ron is on the verge of wiping away and deleting all my work on mytml.org as well.  It is virtually all gone.
« Last Edit: May 09, 2015, 10:57:28 pm by Raymond Benjamins »

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Re: Why?
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2015, 10:09:40 pm »
Hello, Eventod.

I discovered your private message to me.
I forgive you.

But I neither like it nor understand the necessity for that procedure of moving my topics.

I am presently debating whether I ought try to fix it.

Regards,
Raymond Benjamins

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Re: Why?
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2015, 09:25:50 am »
I am a bit confused.  I took it that my postings had eveything to do with the Magisterial Mission.  And as it was my purpose to direct men's hearts and aspirations to the era of Light and Life, that it would qualify me as a "spiritual leader" of sorts.  I wished that I had been consulted before any bold moves had been made affecting my work.

At any rate, for me to reestablish all those 100+ postings along with their topics in this forum would take me a great many hours of labor.  I do not have that kind of time on my hands, nor the gigobytes.  All I have is a smartphone; I have no computer.

As I see now how very easily vast amounts of work can be deleted here in this forum in a mere moment, I find myself disinclined and discouraged from submitting any more substantial postings as they would in all likelihood be deleted once again, even by error.  Time is immensely precious to me.  I am saddened to have found myself and my salutary postings/teachings in the throes of destructive powers.

But there is a reason why God permits anything and everything to happen.  I could not help but notice that there was exceedingly little esteem for my postings here.

I am grateful that at least recording seraphim take down my words, where they will be kept safe in the annals of Heaven / the Grand Universe.

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Re: Why?
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2015, 03:45:49 pm »
1)  One of the titles for qualification was that of "spiritual leader".  If Eventod felt it did not apply to me, he could have first discussed the matter with me before taking action.

2)  My posts are not merely presentations of my own thoughts, but, as I have stated several times, taken from 3 principal sources:  The Thought Adjuster, the Spirit of Truth, and the Holy Spirit.  Why do I say that?  Nothing good or true can come from the mind of unaided man.  Everything that I posted is applicable and relevant to the Magisterial Mission.  If it is believed that my words express merely my own personal opinions, that would explain why they were dealt with in so careless a manner.

3)  I know Eventod is sorry for the deletions, but he did not apologize for taking serious action involving my work without first consulting me.  As long as he loves the wielding of power, I cannot operate here on any level of comfort or assurance.

4)  The damage done to my cause in this forum is so massive that it cannot be repaired; and there is no way I can guarantee that such a mistake can and will not repeat itself in the future.
« Last Edit: May 10, 2015, 08:01:51 pm by Raymond Benjamins »

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Re: Why?
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2015, 06:20:52 pm »
1)  I have endeavored to the best of my ability and with all my powers to submit only pure, substantiated, benevolent, and salutary truths.  There is therefore nothing inappropriate in setting myself forward as a spiritual leader, if that is what in truth I am, as I wilfully habitually expose myself to those inclined to disagree with me to see if they can prove me to be wrong in what I say.  And aside from my 3 Interior Ministers, I have often solidified my statements with passages from the Urantia Book, or those Bible passages supported by the Urantia Book.

2)  As a professed follower of Christ Michael, I find no problem with forgiving others, as I have done precisely that many times in my life.  But here is a case likened to a man who carelessly burns down his neighbor's house, causing all the irreplacable treasures and possessions inside to perish, and then approaching his neighbor with a "Sorry", imagining that that would fix and restore everything.

3)  When mistakes are made, there is always a reason for it.  Here are the facts:  1)  Eventod loves to exercise and wield power.  That much is very clear.  He is as a man wildly and joyfully swinging a sword in all directions without any suspicion of what damage he is causing.  2)  Eventod thought very little of my postings.  If he believes as you do that my postings express merely my own subjective opinion, he will easily find himself handling my postings with recklessness, without him realizing it.  And it is to be noted that he himself teaches next to nothing in this forum, but he only exercises authority.

4)  This is not a simple case of a mistake made and forgiveness sought, but one of the root causes that lead to making mistakes.  There is always a reason why mistakes are made, and one of the reasons is always carelessness.  Therefore I say:  As long as Eventod loves to wield power and scorn my postings as merely my own opinion, I cannot hope to post anything fruitfully or profitably here, as any postings of mine would once again be carelessly deleted by mistake, on account of these root causes.   And again I reiterate the fact that Eventod has no regrets in taking a radical course of action that would affect me and my work without first consulting with me, to prove the point of the things I am saying.
« Last Edit: May 11, 2015, 08:50:44 pm by Raymond Benjamins »

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Re: Why?
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2015, 07:31:57 am »
Eventod:

You spoke wrongly in my regard, and you have betrayed how you really feel about me and about my postings.

1)  When I said I forgive you for the deletions, I meant it.  But I am also realist enough to recognize that you are of that disposition to act recklessly against me in future times, insisting on your rights of authority.  Also, I maintain that I ought to have been consulted (showing myself to be a great forum benefactor, believing myself entitled to it), and for that action you have no remorse, which means you are poised to perpetrate rash decisions against me in the future in the course of habit.

2)  I am not bitter.  Only affection for sin and evil can make a person bitter.  I know what dwells in my own soul.

3)  I cannot, as you imagine, copy and paste dozens of postings in a matter of mere moments.  It takes hours, and I do not have hours.  And I am not inclined to go through all that labor if my postings will suffer from depreciations and reckless deletions again.

4)  If you believe, as LConover does, that my postings are nothing more than subjective garbage, then you will subconsciously deal with them recklessly, as has already been the case.

5)  I see that you are flexing your power and authority again, as I know you love to do.  You wanted me to forgive you, take a few moments to repair things, and then go about as if nothing has ever happened.  But I have also underlined in my last post "root causes" of the aforesaid problems.  It is very clear that you hold my postings in some degree of personal contempt, otherwise you would not have striven to demote them stealthily behind my back.  And I also plainly see that you are quite poised to throw me out of the forum if I do not bend down to you.

6)  What I don't understand is how respectful brethren like Paul, Cyrus, and Daniel, should have given to you supreme authority and power in the forum.  Who are you?  "Eventod" is apparently not your real name.  You are, as it seems, an anonymous figure that hardly anyone knows anything about.  You do not teach.  You do not inspire.  You do not bless.  You do not edify.  But you love to flex unrighteous muscle and power.

Having said all these things, I will expect that you would perhaps give me the boot.

You have been wrong.

This tiny forum has only 18 members and most of them are not even active.  I had been the most active and dynamic, submitting the most postings.  You will notice, not one person has joined this forum in many weeks, and you apparently hold no scruples in tossing me out as well.  Who in their right mind and good righteous sense would want to join this forum under your leadership and under your unkind and senseless flexing of power?  Who can function under oppression and bullying?
« Last Edit: May 11, 2015, 01:43:25 pm by Raymond Benjamins »

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Re: Why?
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2015, 05:35:58 pm »
Dear brothers

       I am not active writer but reader and observer.
 
       Benjamins, I understand your frustration when your sharing thoughts were suddenly found deleted Mr Raymond. When I share my thoughts by posting in a forum, I also believe that I am not alone in the thinking process, so I expect that should stay there forever as I see that would be good  for those new peoples who come later who might be interested to know all the live history of evolution of the missions, whatever thoughts, opinions are right or wrong, ..., not just what the admin selected, dictated.

       But the admin of the forum mission might not agree with such point of view as they have their own point of view, agenda, objective, ... . On other forum, Ron would automatically remove the posts older than 3 or 6 months, ... . so do not expect that your posts would stay there forever, nor for long time. You may guess why? But the reason could be ... for saving space on hard drive or whatever, ..., but I believe the the reason is that when they don't see information fit on their goals, plan or agenda any more, they would imperatively remove without need of consulting any author. So I don't think to expect that the these forums is a museum for keeping our records of sharing thoughts. If there are need for that, creating pages on FaceBook would be an ideal.

       I have checked all your posts on mytml.org, it seems many but not so long to do the recovery to bring them back here (using the computer). I could do it, but my name would be with them.

       Anyway, I would like intervene between you and Eventod because I remember about Jesus teaching and my good will to learn how you express love and mercy to each other. I observe your attitudes as you apply the teaching of Jesus rather than just reading your only words.

      Thank you very much.

Love&Peace
Huy
« Last Edit: May 11, 2015, 06:20:15 pm by Huy »

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Re: Why?
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2015, 02:22:10 pm »
Dear Eventod

          All is going well, don't worry but enjoy. I don't see we have any problem.

          Just a few clicks, I have safeguarded all the posts of Mr Raymond on mytml.org into a secure place a few days ago, in case if Ron scrap them and Mr Raymond want them back. But it seems no longer necessary as Mr Raymond seem turned his back to this forum and I know he has his posts safeguarded in facebook that he can backup any time to this forum if he still found interesting to him, I guess.

         So, live in joy and love each other as Jesus loves us, my brother.

Blessings and Regards
Cheers
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Huy
 
« Last Edit: May 18, 2015, 02:31:29 pm by Huy »

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Re: Why?
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2015, 04:04:52 pm »
Dear brother Huy,

Thank you for caring about my posts.

I don't have them stored on Facebook, only mytml.org.  Too many of my FB Friends are die-hard Biblists.

Actually, I haven't turned my back on this forum, as I watch it every day.

I commend you for your good intentions.

God bless and Namaste
Raymond Benjamins

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Re: Why?
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2015, 12:32:15 pm »
Dear Brother Benjamins

         I have seen your facebook some posts looking like what I have read here, so I presume that you have your back up on the facebook, maybe not all.

         Now, would you want I copy your post back here? That would take me just a few minutes to do, but it would look like I am the author, not you.   ;D. It is rather better that you do once in order as you wish, I trust that Eventod would be careful while doing his reorganizing tasks.

         God  loves me then I love you all. :D

Love&Peace
Huy

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Re: Why?
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2015, 01:54:56 pm »
Dear brother Huy,

You may do as you feel inspired to do.  I don't know where you placed the collection that you'd like me to fetch; but if the process is anything similar to transferring them from mytml to here, it would really take me hours.  I have only a smartphone device, and its C&P process leaves my words in such a chaotic mess that it requires huge stretches of time to assemble and fix it all.  So I am happy to hear you have discovered a method of transferring them in a course of mere minutes.

It matters not so much to me who will be accredited as the author of these works as the prospect that many dozens or hundreds of folks would be blessed and benefited by them.

Blessings to you, brother.
Raymond Benjamins

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Re: Why?
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2015, 07:34:11 pm »
Brothers and Sisters

I am so glad we are finding a why to help brother Raymond. 
We love you little Benny!

Cy

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Re: Why?
« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2015, 09:30:01 pm »
Brother Huy,

I see you are quite the man of your word.  I don't know how you managed to conjure up the technology to accomplish what you did, because I certainly could not have done it.  And you kept everything in perfect good order.  May God bless and reward you.  I hope one of these days someone will come along a buy you a Superman's cape.

All that we need now are lots of folks who will come along and discover all these postings and get heaps of enjoyment out of them!

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Thank you, Brother Cyrus, for cheering me on.

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Re: Why?
« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2015, 09:37:03 pm »
Dear Brother Benjamins

         Yes! Indeed, it took a few minutes to to save all your posts on mytml.org into the store.
But it take longer to copy and sort out conversations of peoples that do not belong to here, but at last, I know it took about 1 hour.  :D

         Now, keep going ahead, brother.

Love&Peace       
Huy

 

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