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Our Forum Under Attack
« on: March 08, 2015, 11:30:47 am »
Beloved Members of this new forum,

You may perhaps be aware that the main administrator of the other forum, Mr. Ron Besser, has just moments ago in his forum issued a scathing condemnatory attack on our new forum and particularly upon the person of our beloved Cyrus.

Allow me therefore to respond to this by posing this following question:  Does the language of Mr. Ron Besser and of those "celestial beings" that speak through him exude love and righteousness?

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Re: Our Forum Under Attack
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2015, 03:55:42 pm »
Dear Eventod,

The reason I did not bother to answer my own question is because the answer to me is so over-the-top obvious to anyone in their proper senses.  Ron has composed many hundreds of posts, many of which contain messages from various "celestial" personages, including Monjoronson.  And he has made many hundreds of claims, not a single one of which can be verified; and made many dozens of predictions, of which not a single one ever came true.  And to explain away these infidelities, he enlisted these same "celestials" to submit either the most implausible or immoral of explanations.  Hardly anything that Ron posts exhibits a genuinely righteous character; and yet he maintains a powerfully loyal following by displays of what I refer to as tracts of vain scientific knowledge.  And he wins them over by making up names of their personal Thought Adjusters.

And Ron will in no wise tolerate opposition.

Dear Eventod, I am writing these things because you requested it, although it is not in my nature to bad-mouth anyone.  But I believe what I wrote is the truth, and I honestly do not believe that those "celestials" that are connected with Ron are benign beings.

Why did I stick around on that forum?  Because of the good, edifying content that often appears there, accompanied with the good will which reveals an earnest hunger for truth.

Thank you for having me in this forum.
Sincerely,
Raymond Benjamins
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Re: Our Forum Under Attack
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2015, 05:34:55 pm »
Dear Friends,

What if you were attacked for simply stating who you are?  You know that who you are is who you are and you cannot deny who you are because then you would be a liar.  I know in my heart who I am and yet if I told you who I was, would you believe me?  Yet, in my heart of hearts I say that it does not matter if you were not to believe me because the Father knows me and that is all that is important. 

So too our Avonal Son knows who he is.  If he were to deny who he is when he is who he is then he would be a liar.  Our Avonal Son is not a liar so he is being true to who he is.  Yet, I see the dilemma.  We were all expecting the Avonal Son, but when he arrives we become disbelieving and fill ourselves with negative energies.  Did we not want him to arrive?  Were we not expecting him?  Yet, if he did not arrive in a way that we were expecting then we are inclined to reject him.  Were not the people of Joshua Ben Joseph's day expecting someone far different?  Were they not expecting someone that would overthrow the Roman yoke and begin to rule over mankind?  Yet, what did they receive?  They received a man of sorrows.  A man that would not overthrow the Roman yoke.  A man that did not love himself even in the face of death because he allowed the hammer blow of slaughter strike true.   

Oh, Joshua Ben Joseph was rejected by men on the whole and yet this one was called forth to complete the task as far as he could complete it.  Yet, John the Baptist and Joshua Ben Joseph were expecting another person to come and to complete the adjudication.  That one has come.  He is here.  Will we stay struck in our unbelief, in our anger, in our hatred, or will we let the love in our hearts become as large as the universe?  At this very hour, individually, and collectively, mankind is adjudicating the Lucifer rebellion in twain with the Avonal Son.  It is a collective effort of consciousness that is working in tandem to destroy that which would destroy us.  To destroy all that is holy, all that is good, all that is love.  Yet we have all said, 'ENOUGH.' 

What if today the Avonal Son were to appear at your door and say, "I am he that you seek."  Would you believe him or would you throw him off of your property?  Would you push down the crown of thorns upon his head and watch as the blood runs down his face?  Or rather, would you offer him a refreshing cup of cold water?  Would you wipe the blood from his face and watch as his whole demeanor changes?  The choice belongs to each one of us.  I choose to offer my brother a cup of cold water to drink.  To come out of the storm and receive a dry set of clothes.  I choose to let Father's will hold sway.  I choose to let love hold sway.  I choose to let Father's will live in my heart and to be a very part of my being.  Will you join me my friends?  Then take my hand and let us praise the Father that created us all.  Let us change this world with all the love in our hearts.  For I do love you, each and every one of you.  With our love may we watch as this world blossoms as the rose and the Father in heaven will raise our essence to his nostrils.  There he will breathe deep as His children exude the fragrance of goodness, of mercy, of compassion, of eternal love.  Amen, amen and amen!

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Re: Our Forum Under Attack
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2015, 05:56:38 pm »
Thanks, Paul.
Cyrus did not meet up with certain expectations and so He was cast out.  He was given no chance whatsoever.  Those who set themselves out to represent that which is right can rightly anticipate some persecution.


Dear Lee,

Thank you for your thoughts and sentiments, which appear so similar to mine.  Yes, our real focus should be on kindness, understanding, and our true destiny.

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Re: Our Forum Under Attack
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2015, 07:39:04 pm »



"Man Of Peace"

Look out your window, baby, there's a scene you'd like to catch
The band is playing "Dixie", a man got his hand outstretched
Could be the FÅhrer
Could be the local priest
You know sometimes Satan, you know he comes as a man of peace.

He got a sweet gift of gab, he got a harmonious tongue
He knows every song of love that ever has been sung
Good intentions can be evil
Both hands can be full of grease
You know that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace.

Well, first he's in the background, and then he's in the front
Both eyes are looking like they're on a rabbit hunt
Nobody can see through him
No, not even the Chief of Police
You know that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace.

Well, he catch you when you're hoping for a glimpse of the sun
Catch you when your troubles feel like they weigh a ton
He could be standing next to you
The person that you'd notice least
I hear that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace.

Well, he can be fascinating, he can be dull
He can ride down Niagara Falls in the barrels of your skull
I can smell something cooking
I can tell there's going to be a feast
You know that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace.

He's a great humanitarian, he's great philanthropist
He knows just where to touch you honey, and how you like to be kissed
He'll put both his arms around you
You can feel the tender touch of the beast
You know that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace.

Well, the howling wolf will howl tonight, the king snake will crawl
Trees that've stood for a thousand years suddenly will fall
Wanna get married ? Do it now
Tomorrow all activity will cease
You know that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace.
Somewhere Mama's weeping for her blue-eyed boy
She's holding them little white shoes and that little broken toy
And he's following a star
The same one them three men followed from the East
I hear that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace.


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Re: Our Forum Under Attack
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2015, 08:00:51 pm »
Ron Besser and his associated celestials once again spoke horribly ill of this forum earlier today, citing that they would fight against us because we have left them.  Why would they do that?  We have never left off loving and obeying our Father Who is within us.  And we have never left off the cordial solicitation for our benighted planet Urantia.  Why would they accuse us of teaching falsehood, when not one single thing that THEY said has thus far proven to be true? 

We hold the brethren of the other forum with great reverence and affection, and yet these same brethren are conditioned and compelled to hold us in loathing as if we were apostate infidels.

But honestly, We do preceive of some WRONG perpetrated in that forum.  I honestly cannot conceive of rescuing Urantia from the grip of evil by means of an obsession with politics and sociology, and a program that has nothing to do with love.

Why has a new forum been started here?  Because in the other forum, one is not really free to express himself according to the dictates of godly righteousness.  The poor brethren of that forum have effectually the barrel of a gun pointed at their heads and are compelled to conform to its resident dictatorship.  Those who detect serious wrongs and out of concern openly vocalize it are cast out.  Some of the poor brethren are reduced to sycophants. They are sadly COMPELLED to praise and flatter the leadership.

Just because We have chosen to participate in this new forum, does not mean We have left the other forum, in which are exchanged many wholesome, edifying, and sanctifying sentiments.

But the Father is with Us because We love Him, and We love ALL His holy will.  We all love to be similar to Him and to be transformed into Him.  We wish to BECOME Him.  And by this means, I believe, We can transform Urantia.

We bless the members of the other forum, We open our arms and hearts to them, and bow to them in NAMASTE.
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Re: Our Forum Under Attack
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2015, 10:05:48 pm »
Brothers & Sisters

I am sure there are many I admire in that other forum. I miss most of all the good and righteous people and these people deserve a place to be free from tyranny.   We shall be added to daily.   

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« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2015, 06:24:28 am »
My dear Father,

Shed Your light upon those whose hearts and minds are open to receiving Your light.

Please effect a loving union between Us and all them who love and receive Your light and are resolved to live by it.

Amen.

Thank You, my dear Father

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« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2015, 10:58:10 pm »
Has anyone noticed that Mr. Ron Besser has his "celestials" who supposedly speak through him molded according to his own character?  And then he directs and positions these same "celestials" to lavish endless praises, awards, rewards, and the most unprecidented flatteries upon himself, making himself out to be the closest of bosom buddies to the very highest Personalities of the Grand Universe, while showing forth personal characteristics furthest removed from holy justice and righteous fairness.  Whenever he says anything grotesquely wrong, which he often does, NO ONE can do a thing about it.  He is trying to turn brethren of love into wasps of hate.  He is quoted as saying, "I have nothing against the wart-hogs in the other forum."  And there are many who believe and swallow EVERYTHING he says.   Them who love righteousness must suffer all this in silence.  I am really quite astonished that the poor folks at the other forum fail to discern that, but they proffer him BLIND loyalty, knowing full well that not the least bit that Ron has said or claimed can be ascertained.  (We had already been told that anyone travelling to Poughkeepsie in the hope of encountering one of the "incarnates" will find zilch.) They appear to be sadly drunken with the prospect of attaining prestigious positions in Ron's "Magisterial Mission", which has, for all its myriads of minute details, manifested itself in nothing whatsoever, particularly not benignity, power, fidelity, fairness, or supernatural knowledge.  Indeed, let us pity these brethren.  They are absolutely mezmerized by Ron.  They are frightened to death of crossing him.  When will they finally come to understand that the very ESSENCE of the Magisterial Mission is for those of us who are called to become aware of it to enamor ourselves of the Supreme Pattern to which we must desire to adopt and assimilate into the depths of our very beings, and thereby to reach out and mercifully rescue our fallen planet from the grips of Luciferian darkness and selfish evil?  When will they realize that it far more desirable and blessed to allow ourselves to be motivated by sweetness rather than rancor and paranoia?  He who relishes the supreme GOODNESS of the Father has NOTHING to fear.
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Re: Our Forum Under Attack
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2015, 08:07:32 am »
Dear Brother Cyrus,

Thank You for being a kind and loving Person, for being AMI.

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Re: Our Forum Under Attack
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2015, 08:10:41 am »
Dear everyone,

    I know that you monitor IP and you know that I come to read your post everyday. In fact, I always read you since you were in other forum. I appreciate to learn from you. Thank you.

Cheers
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« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2015, 10:11:47 am »
In the fulfillment of holy righteousness,
There is a time for everything:

--a time to embrace children
--a time to denounce Pharisees
--a time to heal with tender love
--a time to overturn tables in righteous zeal

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Re: Our Forum Under Attack
« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2015, 01:21:49 pm »
Brother and Sisters

I keep thinking if only I could be closer to all of you in the physical sense.  But I have something better than this already.  I feel you with me in the spiritual sense.  Right in my heart, right in the center of my being.

Let us begin to focus more and more on the good things of the mission and not on the things that confound us.   I pray for these people everyday, let us focus on being faithful and true like our GOD.  Even though these people might be a sorrow to the world and an affliction to sincerity and innocence, let us pray that our Father assigns his children to repair, negate and undo any damage that has been done by vicious people other people and to this mission. 

Many blessings my friends, you mean the world to each other and to me.

Cyrus.



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